theroyalfalcon wrote:no matter the case ironfists look cool but are not worth the points. But yes now it is a bit ambigous, I had noticed that too, about if the ironfists now only count as extra hand weapons (and are 1 point more than just extra handweapons) or if they can stil be that or a shield in combat. There is also the question about how it states in the MRB that special weapons overide mundane and the ogre club would be a special weapon so it could be argued that it cant be combined with a shield for the parry at any rate. This does need more clarification.
Well, the Ogre Club/Shield thing is a bit of a non-issue, the Iron Fist itself is a special weapon, so you can choose to use it instead of the Ogre club with a hand weapon. The potential weapon combos I see if you give your bulls iron fists:
Club alone (3 attacks, Armour piercing)
Club + hand weapon (4 attacks)
Hand weapon + Ironfist as weapons (4 attacks)
Hand weapon + Ironfist as shield (3 attacks, 6+/6++ save)
And before the advent of the parry save, I'd have agreed with you that Ironfists were kind of useless, But now, giving an entire unit a 6+ ward in close combat for 1 point/model seems like a pretty sweet deal.
) and I find myself with a question about ironfists. The Ogre FAQ says that with Ironfists you should ignore the second sentence of it's entry: "If they use it as a shield in conjunction with a mundane hand weapon they gain the bonus to their Saving throw for being equipped with a hand weapon and shield."
